How it came to be…

The power sports industry is some what at a cross roads in my opinion.  The manufactures are trending to wards more discipline specific machines, following what the motorcycle side of the business has been doing for the last 20 years.  Example Yamaha’s YFZ450, you have the “R” model more focused to wards motocross racing and the “X” model that is focused to wards off road/woods racing. The differences are subtle (just like their motorcycle brethren), but enough to make each model more specialized to the needs of  that particular discipline.

This prompts me to look back at the older models that I have had experiences with and somewhat compare to what we have today. First off in the past an ATV was sort of a generic term for any machine with 4 wheels. The general public barely had a grasp on the concept that there were two different types of machines under the the umbrella term ATV.  Of course we as offroaders know these two to be Sport and Utility.  Just recently added is the SxS market which now has its own division but that is another topic for another day.

Back to the discussion at hand.  I am going to look back at my own experiences with machines gone past, give a brief opinion of what I thought at the time as well as opine on if the model would be a good choice for someone looking in the used market. In this economy the used market is becoming a more prominent area for the new ATV rider as well as the established rider to find their next machine.

3 wheelers, I have already written about them and my introduction to riding through them so there is no need to rehash it here.

Team MGR rider Derek Hinrich on the 250X in one of its last races before retirement

1987 Honda TRX250X

 Starting off with probably hands down the quad I have had the most experience with.  This very ATV (pictured left) has been passed around our group so many times I forget who owned it when.  This thing did everything: race, ride, loaner quad, you name it.  My impression then: Excellent starter quad, 5 speed manual lets you control the power and when you want to shift just like a racer, but tame power for the beginning-intermediate skill level.  Ride is cushy and can handle moderate jumping.

Now: Still an excellent beginner ATV, bullet proof from almost every prospective.  Suspension is not all that bad but benefits from at least an upgraded rear shock.  This machine holds its value pretty well so as long as you don’t over pay when you buy it you should expect to at least get 80-90% of your money back when you sell.

 

Actual LT250R I have ridden, owned by Team MGR team mate Chris Flodine

1987 Suzuki LT250R

 This collectible gem can be credited with starting the sport/race ATV segment of the industry.  This particular model is the 3rd year of production featuring an update engine with a power valve and a variation of Suzuki’s first full floater link-aged suspension.  My impression then:  Wickedly fast on a motocross track.  Handles well, jumps straight, feels like a true race machine should.  Suspension is plush in the rough stuff but compliant for big g-outs and triple jumps.

Now: Still a very collectible machine.  A bit underrated and overshadowed by Honda’s TRX250R that was a response to this machine.  Engine can be finicky to tune and the power valve on later models are complicated and expensive to replace/repair.  Suzuki’s full floater might have been the best idea for a linkage type suspension however it had twice the parts of a conventional rocker arm type thus more parts to grease and wear out.  Suspension on used machines is usually thrashed.  Parts are not easily crossed between some model years.  Wickedly fast and still competitive in the amateur ranks.

 

1989 Yamaha YFS200 “Blaster”

 Yamaha’s entry level machine to capitalizing on the ever growing sport market.  Not quite a full size machine but not quite a youth machine.  My thoughts then:  This thing is terrible.  Feels like Yamaha went into the parts bin and just grabbed an engine from a street bike (converted to air cooling), frame, wheels and tires from other motorcycles and ATVs to produce a machine.  Engine is peaky and is all top end power.  Rear shock is mismatched to the frame and swing arm geometry.  Rear shock is a linkless design.   Suspension is not very adjustable and unfortunately what adjustment there is does not help the lack of damping this thing just bounces around.  The handling is not helped by the balloon type tires on the rear.

Now: Almost zero updates in its whole production run.  It took until 2002 for hydraulic front brakes to be added.  Previous models have drum brakes that are almost impossible to adjust so each functions equally.  Balloon tires? Really? Need I say more.  Best mods are to add some length to the swing arm, better shocks all the way around. Longer A-arms help stability.  Square profile “sport” tires in the rear.  Flywheel weight helps power delivery.  Know what your buying when buying used.  This ATV is not for everyone.

 

1995 Yamaha YFZ350 “Banshee”

 The legendary dune machine.  Yamaha originally developed this in response to Suzuki and Honda’s 250cc sport machines.  Using a variation of a 350cc twin 2 stroke street bike engine the Banshee lived up to its name.  My thoughts then:  I only had a brief encounter in a sandy trail area.  Blindingly fast in a straight line but suspension felt like it had none.  The length helped the straight line stability and off the line launches, but was a major hindrance in the trails.  The thing just would not turn without deliberate effort.  Motocross track, nope not without some serious modifications to the suspension and engine for better more palatable power delivery.

Now:  If your into strictly dune riding this is the machine, even in bone stock for this machine will climb, jump and out run most anything (with the right rider).  Unfortunately this is all the machine does good.  Its not a very good trail machine nor a race machine for the track.  Extensive modifications can be made to it though to make it handle terrain better but it will cost you.  This machine is not for everybody, expect used machines to be molested in some way and plan on tuning it to your liking before you will feel comfortable on it.

Team MGR rider Chris Flodine on his 400EX

2001 Honda TRX400EX

 The machine that rekindled the sport ATV market in 1999.  Honda borrowed its tried and true 400cc engine from the XR400 dirt bike and threw it into a frame reminiscent of the 250R of the past.  My thoughts then:  Finally a machine that put it all back together again.  Similar in nature to the 250X of nearly a decade before it, the 400EX is just a larger package.  Plenty of power all around, decent suspension for track or trail with a bit of adjust ability out back, front shocks lacking but no more than other ATVs.  Aftermarket is plentiful with BBK’s and other parts to tailor it to the rider.

Now:  The 400EX started showing its age in about 2005.  It has seen no major update since its inception other than a reverse gear in 2006.  MSRP’s have steadily risen but performance has stayed stagnant.  Used machines are the best bet here.  The ATV as a whole is rock solid reliable.  Aftermarket parts are still plentiful.  Best mods include, better front shocks, different cam profile, exhaust and a few other ergonomic upgrades.  The machine is still a good ATV in stock trim for light racing, but serious racers look elsewhere.

 

2001 Yamaha YFM660R “Raptor”

 Yamaha’s answer to the question no one asked, “Bigger is better, right?”  The Raptor is the first of its kind, a big bore sport quad (excluding the LT500R of the past).  Engine borrowed from another one of Yamaha’s motorcycles not imported to the U.S.  My impression then:  Loads of torque.  The engine is a stump puller nearly identical to the Grizzly.  The whole package is compact if a bit top heavy.  Frame, suspension might be a bit under built for how much power the engine puts out.  Suspension is a bit stiff out of the box but has enough adjust ability to suit most recreational riders.  Not as at home on the track but if lowered a bit it can be made to handle well enough.

Now:  The 660 was replaced by the more capable and more well thought out 700R meaning you can only find these used.  In my opinion there is no reason to look for a used 660 now that there are used 700’s on the market.  The 660 was a half half hearted attempt to progress the big bore sport quad market but really this ATV doesn’t do much well in comparison to other models available on the used market.

 

2004 Suzuki LTZ400

Suzuki’s late to the party entry into the sport market.  Engine borrowed from the instant legend DRZ400 off road and dual sport motorcycle.  My impression then:  Wow! this is what the 400EX should have been.  Water cooled, modern shocks, light weight frame, powerful high reving engine.  This ATV is happy on the trail as well as the track.  Not much modification needed to be a competitive racer even against custom built 250R clones.  Aftermarket parts are plentiful to maximize the potential on and off the track.  MSRP not much more than the Honda.

Now:  The Z400 has seen steady updates and refinements over the years and recently adopted EFI.  Used Z400’s hold their value fairly well compared to other models.  Look for 2006 and up, those models feature fully adjustable suspension components.  Best mod on carburated machines is finding a Keihin 39mm FCR carburetor to replace the anemic CV Mikuni BSR36.  The FCR is found standard on early model DRZ400″E” models.  Also swapping camshafts from that bike will move the power up the rev range a tad making this an even more high performing ATV.

The 450’s….

I have only had brief encounters with the early 450’s, Yamaha’s 2004 YFZ450 (actually only a 440cc engine to comply with the ATVA rules at the time) and Honda’s TRX450R.  Both I thought were amazing at the time, but their was not much to compare to at the time.  Today they are pushing to wards more genre specific, motocross and off road.  This is a good thing, unlike the early years where every ATV was a compromise on all around performance.

There you have it my opinions on machines of the past that I have had explicit experiences with.  Some may agree and some may disagree.  Feel free to discuss it on our own ATV Magazine Forum

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